![]() And I'm not forgetting anything, I actually stated in my first post in this thread that the lion is a predator, while the gorilla isn't, and thus has an advantage. And you actually never specified whether or not the specimens in question were found in the wild or not you just gave me a general statement (lions weigh more than gorillas). And I'll continue thinking so, unless you provide proof otherwise. " I really don't think the largest lion weighed that much. The lion should win more often then said: " said: " said: Anyhow, I made my points before, no need to repeat them. You get a big gorilla, and it wouldn't surprise me if he could rip off a lion's jaw. Gorillas are built differently, muscle-wise. And as I mentioned before, a measly 200 pound gorilla would routinely tear open the steel bars of his cage to escape, back in the 50s. There are people that weigh 1,000 lbs, but just because they weigh more than your average lion doesn't really mean they can kill 'em with their bare hands. That extra 70 lbs of weight could be added fat. 930 lbs predator - hmm, who will win? 70 lbs might not seem like a lot, but that is still 70 lbs of solid muscle What else do you have? "How do you know? The link you gave states that a captive lion weighed that much. here is the proof: 860 lbs vegitarion VS. " Actually, on average a male lion is both heavier and stronger then a gorilla - according to Big cat experts Peter Jackson: a captive lion weighed 423 kilograms (930 pounds). In fact, cape buffalo are known to gore lions, if ever faced 1-to-1. ![]() Also, lions rarely face buffalo one on one. ![]() 930 lbs predator - hmm, who will win? 70 lbs might not seem like a lot, but that is still 70 lbs of solid muscle What else do you said: " said:
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